Wednesday, April 19, 2006

First, some background. I’ve been a TiVo subscriber for over 6 years but I left it with my parents after they became hooked to it, thinking I would get a TiVo Series3 when (if?) it comes out later this year. My wife and I only watch two or three shows a week now, so I figured the Comcast DVR would do the job until this fall.

 

So last week I ordered the Comcast DVR (a Motorola 6412 device), hoping I would be able to use it to record a few HD shows and maybe a some movies occasionally. Boy was I wrong. What a complete piece of garbage!

 

The unit itself makes a constant chirping noise and is louder than a TiVo. The device gets so hot I had to remove it from the TV stand because it was generating so much heat. I wasn’t expecting much in terms of the user experience, but with so many devices doing UI right these days, there’s no excuse for a crummy experience like this. The people who designed and engineered this thing should be ashamed of themselves.

 

As soon as I got the device, I used the clumsy interface to setup recordings for “24” and “Lost”. As I did this, the unit would frequently stutter or freeze up and become unresponsive to the remote control. I finally got the recordings setup and forgot about the whole thing for a few days.

 

On Wednesday, I decided to watch the latest episode of “24” in HD. I hit the “My DVR” button on the remote and it took me to a list of recordings. It actually listed the same “24” episode twice -- one in HD and the other regular. Curiously, it said the device was 13% full. I assume the HD content takes up a lot more disk space.

 

I hit “Play” on the HD version of “24” and it started up perfectly. The quality was excellent and I was able to enjoy the first 15 minutes of the show. Once the commercials started, I hit the fast forward button a few times. This is when the unit completely locked up and I started getting errors on the screen. “We cannot process your request…” I even tried hitting Stop, Play, etc but it didn’t do anything … I kept getting more errors until the screen went black and the unit became completely unresponsive. It then asked if I wanted to delete the recording. I selected not to delete it, but the unit remained unresponsive. I hit the power button on the remote but it didn’t do anything. After waiting a few minutes to see if anything would happen, I finally reached behind the unit to recycle the power.

 

Bad idea.

 

After the unit restarted, none of the menus were available for almost 5 minutes. There was no program guide data, and when I hit the Menu button, it said “One moment please… the service is being restored.”

 

I waited patiently, anxious to continue watching the rest of “24”.

 

Finally the menus became available, so I hit the “My DVR” button on the remote.

 

“No Listings Available”. 0% Full.

 

I go to “DVR Schedule” and find it completely empty. The recordings I setup earlier are completely gone. Are you kidding me? Isn’t there a hard drive in this thing? Wouldn’t it make sense to put scheduled recordings on the hard drive so they would it be there even after, say, a power outage?

 

What a waste of time. I am disappointed that Motorola would release such a crappy product. It’s time to return this piece of garbage and get another TiVo. I guess we can live without HD until Series3.

posted at Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:52:56 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:31:37 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
It should be noted that the Mot 6412 can run at least three different software interfaces, some of which are supposedly better then others. The box I have (Comcast NJ) has the TV guide software (which is reportedly the worst available) and whew boy, does it suck. I've seriously considered giving up HD DVR capability just so I don't have to deal with it. I've heard reports that certian Comcast markets get the MS software (which is supposed to be much better). Do you know which version you have?
Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:47:30 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
I also have the Comcast NJ box with the TV Guide software. I did some quick searches and found that many others have experienced the same problem. My impression of this device is that it is so bad that it's not even worth dealing with.
Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:58:46 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
There was in January that Comcast would dump the TV Guide software on these boxes in favor of TiVO in a new partnership. I don't know where they stand on this.

Pretty sure the box doesn't have a real embeded OS and will boot whatever is on the harddrive.
Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:24:05 PM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
Comcast is supposed to be adding the TiVo software sometime this year. I emailed them, but they couldn't give me any information. I've had the HD DVR for a while and TiVo is definitely better. The only reason I've kept the Motorola box is because I really like the HD recording ability and the ability to record on two channels at once.
Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:57:46 PM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
I have the Comcast DVR in Nashville, TN. We actually ended up having to replace the first unit we got and since then it's worked flawlessly. This is the DVR with the dual tuner and 80gig hard drive (don't know the model number).

Instead of just saying that it's crap, have you tried replacing it with a different unit? Have you called tech support and reported your problems. I know that it's frustrating to deal with products that aren't up to spec but you have to remember that DVRs haven't been out all THAT long and they're still improving.

Regardless, I hope your luck improves.
Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:31:10 PM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
I've been using the TV guide version for over a year and have had three boxes go out on me already. There are serious issues with their middleware. DirecTV is also having problems with their generic boxes. Seems like TiVo and Dish are the only two real options on the market. I like TiVo's interface too much to ever switch to Dish, but the series 3 will be out soon enough and I can ditch the piece of junk I have now. The Comcast deal is expected to be done at the end of this year. Comcast says December maybe early next year. TiVo says end of the year, the original contract had a target date of Feb. 2008 though, so I think TiVo gave themselves plenty of room to get it done right. Hopefully, the Comcast TiVo doesn't hold up the series 3 because I can already tell you that I want the full functionality of a stand alone box. Pretty amazing that the cables companies are spending a ton of money to produce this type of junk, when all DirecTV pays TiVo is about $1 per subscriber per month. I wish that all of the operators would just open up all of the hardware to whatever software you wanted to download instead of trying to monopolize their stake in a poorly designed product.
Friday, August 04, 2006 11:54:30 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
I have been using gbpvr(www.gbpvr.com) in a quickly (and expensively, $700) built P4 w/250G hard drive. Except having the power supply dump, it has been the best experience ever. I can upload shows from other sources, burn shows to dvd, and store hours of sesame street and other shows for times of emergency tv. Forget tivo. It's too expensive, now that there is no lifetime membership.
Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:07:34 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
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